up to the middle i've heard paul ryan talk about about barack obama talk it. gwen: they don't have the same solutions. >> they don't have the same solutions and i'm not sure either one of them has a workable solution. gwen: we have another part of the discussion we want to continue because we don't want you tonight without turning to the passing of one of the most significant leaders of our time. world mandela shaped the he lived in and deeply influenced an american president who says his first political act to protest apartheid. he was released from given gives me a sense of what when guided can do by hopes and not their fears. like so many, i cannot imagine the example that nelson mandela set and songs i live i will do what i can to from him. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela, a free man first steps into a new south africa. gwen: nelson mandela captured the world's public imagination when he stepped from behind bars in 1990 after 27 years of captivity. a freedom fighter, a political leader, and a symbol of shocking, just change. he was 71 years old